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Dear customers and friends,

It was long years have passed since I develope the MB4c.
First time, I really want to have Mockingboard for my APPLE IIc and finally could have Mockingboard for //c computer.
it was really happy experianced and It was enough for me.
And revised some version for perfect compatibility as now.
But, the Mockingboard doesn't work on APPLE //c+.
Physically and logically it doesn't support APPLE //c+.
I received some of email who want to have Mockingboard for his APPLE //c+ and finally I promised to finished it.
Infact, When I develped the MB4c, I also tried to make it run on APPLE //c+ but failed.
APPLE //c+ has own cache for faster run and it working different with  APPLE //c.
Some of friends want a Mockingboard with a memory board.
But, It woudn't be easy due to low space.

Anyway, This is a beginning for APPLE //c+ so let me to complete the Mockingboard for C+ first and consider next step on next version.

Thanks;
Ian Kim








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Hi friends and customers,

 

I prepared Mockingboard 4c for your APPLE //c.

You can find it on eBay.

 

www.ebay.com/itm/283998760440

 

Mockingboard 4c (Mockingboard for APPLE //c) | eBay

It works most of Mockingboard programs as Mockingboard A/C,I,II. Mockingboard for APPLE //c. Mockingboard 4c. It is the only the Mockingboard for APPLE //c. It works as you have installed the Mockingboard in Slot#4.

www.ebay.com

 

You can buy it there.

(Please read descriptions, there is available shipping country now)

 

Anyway, If you order direct, You can have some discount price for this Please email me.

 

Thanks a lot

Ian Kim

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Another Revision of PCB was ordered and I'm waiting for it.

 

In the first design, I used AY3-8912 and good parts going to hard to obtain so change it to AY3-8910 chips.

And now, 6522 part also getting harder to find good one And more failure rates are too many.

So, Tried it to use 65C22 but it doesn't fit well and needs to change circuit redesign.

Designing a new device isn't simple due to old vintage parts need to be provided properly.

it is harder to obtain good working parts.

 

Due to a lack of good working parts, I also considered replacing it to CPLD but, it isn't good mate for vintage APPLE II so didn't emulate it and now CPLD is just used to replace some of TTL chips.

 

Once it finished, I could prepare enough amounts of MB4c board.

Please wait more time for it.

 

Thanks a lot

Ian Kim

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Friends,


This is 2nd commercial version of Mockingboard 4c.

First version was sold out so, I needed to prepare more PCB for Mockingboard 4c.

I little adjust the sound input level and sound doesn't off to avoid OFF popping sound.

And CPU little relocated to upper for easy soldering for me.

Sound little improved and easier to solder by me.

I'm testing compatibility and works 100% as Mockingboard C.

Please wait some weeks for next batch of Mockingboard 4c.


Thank you

Ian Kim


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1st Mockingboard 4c all sold out and preparing another revision.

In this version have minor upgrade, Enhanced sound quality.

1st Mockingboard 4c sound little like over driven sound so, I tuned it under proper level, It's little better.

And the CPU socket was relocated to upper for easy soldering. I had hard to solder this area...

It is testing board.

There is no Mute pin but, I will keep the Mute pin even rare used by user.

Ordered another sample PCB for testing..

Thanks for waiting. It will coming soon for you.




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Mockingboard 4c

◆ Mockingboard 4c / 2017. 6. 28. 00:10
The Obsolete Geek



Thanks a lot!!

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Hi friends,


It is a ZAXXON game with mockingboard 4c support.

You can only find here in my blog and cause I did crack it to make it run on APPLE IIc.

Enjoy it :)



ZAXXON.nib


Thanks

Ian Kim

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Dear friends,


The Mockingboard 4c is only the soundcard which you can find for your APPLE IIc.

Now, the Frech touch team start to support MB 4c on their great musics.

Please download the Pure noise or just get this NIB image file.


 PN1.nib


The Original site is here

http://www.ctrl-pomme-reset.fr/french-touch/


Thanks for the great work for mockingboard.




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Dear All,


It is a great music program(http://www.ctrl-pomme-reset.fr/french-touch/and now it can play on Mockingboard 4c.

I wanted to play it on APPLE //c and patched it and running on //c.


NSCT.nib


It sometimes required Manual ON,(Please refer the manual) then works properly.

I also hope to play others and waiting for newer version for APPLE //c.


Thank you.

Ian Kim



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Please refer the user's manual it for Mockinboadr 4c.


한글 메뉴얼; 


머킹보드4c 장착 메뉴얼.pdf


English manual;


Mockingboard 4c users manual.pdf






-----------------------------------------------

Mockingboard 4c compatible software list
Software CompatibleAuto/ManualOther information
Ultima IIIYesManual ON
Ultima IVYesSelect Slot4With patched version for IIc
Ultima VYesSelect Slot4
Sky FoxYesManual ON 
PopeyeYesManual ON
Spy DemiseYesManual ON
Tacticle ArmorYesAuto
The SPY StrikesYesSelect Slot4
Sky DestroyerYesSelect Mockingboard
Night FlightYesManual ON
Sweet Micro SystemsYesAuto
Maze CrazeYesAuto
Cybernoid Music Disk V5YesManual ON
Music construction SetYesManual ON
Willy ByteYesManual OnFirst song now playing but working
(NOT SO )Cheap Tunes IYesManual ONPatched image supply
ZAXXONYesAuto 


 

   

----------------------------------------------

I will update when I finished testing.



Mockingboard can do OFF when it Pressed CTRL+ RESET.

But, from this batch of product, 

It wound't OFF Until Power OFF. It means that If you triggered the manual ON then It wouldn't OFF even CTRL+RESET Pressed. If you want OFF, You have to Power OFF and ON again.

I found The Music Construction Set allow to use CTRL+RESET. So, It would be better to support for Exist Software.

* One general question was Mouse support.

After Manual ON the mockingboard, Mouse can't work together, cause of It is using same slot#4 so, mouse firmware can't be accessed. 

You can't use Mockingboard and Mouse at the same time until Power ON Reboot.

Please understand this mechanism.

Thanks





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This is full set of Ultima4.

I patch it for Mockingboard 4c on APPLE //c.

In fact, Ultima 4 detect if it runing under APPLE //c and deactive mockingboard selection.

I made it patch and you can select mockingboard.


You only need 1st booting disk for this anyway I put all of NIB images.

Thanks.


U4_BT4c.nib


U4-TWN.nib


U4-DNG.nib


U4.BRIT.nib


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Dear friends,


This is the final mockingboard 4c.




* Mockingboard 4c doesn't include the 65C02 CPU.


it is a setup photo.

It added Volume control line so, you can also control internal speaker volume by APPLE //c volume knob.

I connected AUX to earphone socket for external speaker.


Now, I'm making it for Koreans friends some board already shipped from last Friday.

Please wait for a few weeks for international sale.


Thanks

Ian Kim



* PS

Please refer this link.

He just installed the Mockingboard 4c in his APPLE //c Model #4100.

Sorry for Korean but hope you find some fun.



Thank you~!


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Testing volume control by APPLE //c.

If you see the under of APPLE //c, you can finda dial for Volume control.

I decided to use it to for control sound volume for mockingboard 4c too.

And it is working.

It is simple idea but, was complicated to apply at least for me.

with the only +5V single voltage, it isn't easy to apply to control amplifier.

But make it to work as I expected.




As you can see from the 2nd photo, it required pull a line from one point of APPLE //c board.

It is required to control sound volume for Mockingboard 4c.



I ordered final PCBs and hope to have good and nice one for all of us.


I got several 10th orders from Korean APPLE //c fans.

We are waiting for final product and want to have happy time with it.


About 4 weeks later, I could put final prodcuts on eBay for international apple II fans .

If you like it and want to make your apple //c with good sound.

It would be a great chance to grab it.

I'm very proud of this mockingboard compatible sound card for the APPLE //c.


Thank you very much;

Ian Kim


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The APPLE //c has no expandable slot and it has no support by sound card such as Mockingboard.

So, If you play some game on //c, It would be some disadvantage compare to APPLE //e with mockingboard.


Due to this lack of this capability, I tried to build mockingboard compatible sound card and completed designed.

Now, It works very well as the Mockingboard A/C(no voice chip).


It was required accurate timing control and firmware conflict evasion techniques.

APPLE //c doesn't have I/O slot and I needed to make required signals.

For this, I used CPU socket for it.



This sound card can be used on APPLE Iic 4000and 4100 all models.(Not //c plus nor Laser128)

Tested more than several days and no any issued encountered.


I prepared a AUX sound connector for external speaker.

And two small speaker provided for pre-order users.


Anyway, I'm receiving pre-orders from the Korean APPLE II enthusiast,

About a month later, I will put some on eBay for international APPLE II enthusiast,

If you have this device on your APPLE //c,  Your APPLE//c would be almost complete sets.


If you have any concerns or question, please let me know.
Before to finalize it, I will try to apply your idea for perfect one.

Thanks;
Ian Kim

** ADDED **
Present sound card has semi-fixed sound volume so, I'm enhancing it to be able to control as followed APPLE//c Volume dial (It is located on left side of APPLE //c).
It would be controlled sound volume by APPLE //c itself without other device or connector.


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Dear all,


I made PCB and set on my APPLE IIc.



But, there are some debugging points and now It is working now.


I put two small speaker inside of APPLE IIc. looks good.


I'm trying to control the Sound volume as followed APPLE IIc one. but, it's harder than I expected.

I failed to make good control so, I'm not sure can put this function on the board.


Thanks

Ian Kim






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My APPLE IIc doesn't have good sound as //e. I can't use mocking board nor any other sound card for APPLE IIc.

For long time, I though if I could make a device for APPLE IIc. I will try for sound card for APPLE IIc.

Now, I started for it.

I built a simple board for APPLE IIc.

It have to insert on the position of CPU and taking all required signal from there.






And I used a CPLD to control lines for CPU and other chips(Sound chips and PIA).

CPU connected as transparent to the system and I could masking the C4xx for mocking boar slot.


First time, I got bus conflict as this.

But, successfully removed this error. anyway motherboard doesn't damaged with this impact.


Only C4xx area masked. so, mouse firmware is not there but, I can make it back as normal.


I have more wiring and need idea to take required signals without technical issue.

Also there is IRQ issue, it isn't the same as //e andmore there is no external example of IRQ on APPLE IIc.


Hope to complete this project soon.


Thanks

Ian Kim


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